ACV General Discussion

[Niji]

They're all pretty good besides the really low attack power guns like the gatling gun and the energy machineguns. The reason being that defense is relative to attack power now instead of seperate from it. So instead of X defense giving Y amount of damage reduction from all weapons of that type, it's now X defense gives Y damage reduction vs Z attack power. Low attack power weapons get screwed, basically. Except vs people with very low defenses. Gatling guns and energy machineguns are really buff vs people with low defenses in the KE and TE categories as they have literally insane refire rates. They both fire 8 shots a second with max stability arms. Yes, higher stability means higher firing rate (up to the maximum the gun can shoot).

If someone has say 200 KE defense vs the gatling guns 400 KE attack power, you'll do about 400 AP damage a bullet (defense system changed from beta). If someone has say 800 KE defense vs the gatling guns 400 KE attack power, you'll do about 100 AP damage a bullet. At 1,500 KE defense the gatling gun does its minimum damage of 75 AP damage a bullet (defense system changed from beta here too). That's basically how it goes, too. At around 75% of attack power in defense the opponent gets no damage reduction. At about 200% of attack power in defense the opponent reduces 75% of your damage, and at 300% of your attack power in defense your opponent takes the bare minimum damage (19%).

As you can probably see, this means that some guns just aren't too amazing vs the wrong opponents. The weaker the guns base attack power, the more likely it is to get demolished by defenses. While some of these guns may have high reload rates, the lack of raw attack power means their DPS isn't going to be too amazing at all vs someone with about 1000-1500 defense in the given field.

Even more importantly, these guns have an optimal and falloff rating. Once you exit optimal your damage starts to shit out. The amazing thing, and probably one of the more redeeming things, about gatling guns and energy machineguns is that they have a surprisingly large optimal and falloff. The gatling gun has 150m optimal range with a 60m falloff (decay rate). Compare that to the shotgun, which has 18m optimal with a 4m falloff. Idk what they make these gatling guns out of, but it's some high tech stuff. The sniper only has 250m optimal with a 6m falloff. Anyway, the gatling gun and energy machinegun and other weapons are all usable. You just have to be sure you target the right people with them or you'll die.

As for blades and pile bunkers... the heat pile in the game is just a bit too difficult for even me to use vs anyone other than unsuspecting quads (not uncommon). It is basically a 1hko since it has 35,000 CE attack power. I don't think anything is getting defense high enough to stop that from scoring full damage, and there isn't much stuff in the game that can handle eating 35,000 AP damage and walk away just fine. The problem is it's very hard to use and a laser blade or your knee is generally easier, especiallly since it can also be used more easily vs tanks.