LGBT Discussion

[Twin-Skies]

The last group in CLE got to report today. Their report was about homosexuality and homosexual acts
(Worst 50 minutes of mah day.)

Rant:
I feel so angry and depressed in the same time. All I can say was that nearly everything they said is wrong to me.

The report pretty much said that Homos are people with Psychological problems who watched too much stuff from media and acted upon instinct and curiosity. That homos should not be condemned for being what they are as long as they do not act upon it. That homos should be pitied. That all birds should fly even if they're ostriches and penguins. That homosexuality can be cured. That homosexuals only want to get married to have limes&lemons. That two mothers/fathers cannot be good parents. That marriage is only for straight couples. That love is not love unless it's straight.

The group said homosexuals are people. But they also pretty much said that they are disabled.

I dug my fingers into my hands (to control/hide myself) so deeply that the markings are still visible up until now ( CLE was at 2:40 pm btw)

Rave:
The good news is that none so far in my class has displayed an outright hatred for homosexuals. (Aside from feeling slight awkwardness)

Many(more than half the class) have or want to have homosexual friends. Heck, two people (that I'm friends with) defended their gay friends during the discussion.

I nearly cried. I gave them both a big hug when the teacher left. They asked why - I didn't tell them.


My CLE teacher said that "If it's something that you have to hide, then it is something not normal nor right."
I wanted to answer back saying : "I hide not because I am ashamed but because you people are."

...Just one more year then I can finally leave this predominantly Christian country...

The next time anybody thinks I go too far with my criticism of religion, or am being too vicious and unforgiving, now you know one reason I always sound pissed.

Seriously HayWire, can I try inviting you to a couple of our Filipino Freethinkers meetups? I know a couple of guys who can sympathize.

And if it makes you feel any better, a point-by-point takedown of the bullshit you had to endure:

The report pretty much said that Homos are people with Psychological problems who watched too much stuff from media and acted upon instinct and curiosity.

Did it ever occur to them that said psychological problems are due to them being abused, maltreated, and considered as outcasts by a religious conservative community? Sheesh, this is blaming the victim.

And for that second part, well I'd say that of a lot of people, and not just gays.

That homos should not be condemned for being what they are as long as they do not act upon it. That homos should be pitied. That all birds should fly even if they're ostriches and penguins.

Let me get this straight, the Catholic faith preaches about love for your fellow man, but then condemns people for trying to express love? This does not compute.

That homosexuality can be cured.

Umm. No. In fact, attempting to "cure" it has only led to severe psychological trauma.

http://www.gaychristian101.com/Exodus.html

No less than the American Psychological Association has already gone out and stated that such treatments don't work:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/05/gay...index.html

That homosexuals only want to get married to have limes&lemons.

I'd say the same of straight marriages - how many have we heard of here in RP are marriages out of money?

That two mothers/fathers cannot be good parents.

Actually, they can be
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/...80,00.html

That marriage is only for straight couples. That love is not love unless it's straight.

*Ahem*
http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-02-27/ne...gay-rights

From the article:

Not so fast, said Darren Spedale, a law and business student at Stanford University, who studied divorce rates in Denmark in 1996-97, seven years after same-sex registered partnerships were legalized. He found that 17 percent of gay partnerships ended in divorce compared with 46 percent of the straight relationships.

Seems to me that if the church is accusing gay couples of being disloyal to their partners, the problem is three times worse for straight marriages