(08-03-2010, 10:46 PM)Twin-Skies Wrote: @Sforza
To be exact, atheists have yet to be shown any conclusive data that can convince them there is a god. Extraordinary claims need to be backed up by equally extraordinary proof.
Then that would make them agnostics wouldn't it? If they consider that a higher being may exist.
Atheists would probably say that, "God does not exist because there's nothing to sufficiently prove that he does."
As I stated earlier, the atheist position seems to be illogical because of continuously and independently created perception.
The Catholic church I think points to the concept of ultimate good as another refutation of atheism, but one would need to be a theist to support it.
Edit: Definitions given are the most general socially accepted ones and not definitions I came up with on my own.
By the way, I read this morning that scientists discovered a compound or substance that could make people forget things by interrupting neural connections in the brain. It opened up a rather contentious argument (which I'm not willing to debate) on whether a man would technically be able to play god towards another human by accepted definitions.
The really scary part is they were able to narrow memories down to which part of the brain they're located at, so they can erase memories with some accuracy.