06-22-2009, 03:47 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-22-2009, 03:49 AM by Penguin Deus.)
Thanks for looking at them.
G91+gull doesn't bother me on the quad. That particular quad is actually one of my normal bots (with minor mods), so I can say this from experience. The heat resistance on the ul is not all that bad (681), and if I remember right the normal cooling of the bot is like 15.8k-15.9k. This is all with no OB. That's way more than enough for me to handle the machine. Also, it bares mentioning that the strategy of this bot is fairly simple and LR-friendly: spam off or toss the cannon, and spam verts until the opponent tries to move in thne blaze em up with the handhelds from mid to close range. With the mini-k and hp, in general it simply isn't safe to come in and stay for long. The accuracy and pace at which those weapons can deal damage is a prime deterrent on the inside. I can see why most people would have a problem running gull+g91, though.
I thought you couldn't hangar with UA? The funny thing about the quad is that part of it's strategy is to be liberal with the firepower to limit enemy movement. UA would definitely be a better core choice though (it always is lol).
The tank is very straight-forward, and basically falls into one of the design archetypes of LR to a tee. I don't think it's a superior design to the quad, but I do think the quad and tank are cooler designs than the biped. I play type b so I'm not really into inside parts in LR. The gibbon is a nice idea but if I remember right I wasn't digging the arm movement and momentum shifts I was getting while using them. Oh, and the drain was bugging me too. It's worth revisiting though. I think it's a good suggestion.
Yeah I got lazy on the third one. That isn't to say that I think it "should be better" but I do feel that in general it's a lazy design and I took safe choices just about everywhere. You could go in all sorts of directions, probably, but to be honest there aren't too many directions that would be "better" in the LR metagame sense. You have to keep in mind that the biped's setup basically gives it a fighting chance against any possible design that can be made in LR, and this is before you even take into account piloting skills. Seeing as how I haven't played competitively since beginning of '07, I felt my skills won't be where they should and thus playing safe is what I should stick to. I will look into hazel though. I don't know if I tried it already, but it sounds like a fairly nice suggestion.
In fact, you can probably see that the unifying theme in all 3 bot choices was ease-of-use and safeness. The third one is easily the safest and most cookie-cutter, but I would say all 3 are generally safe bots. That's usually not my style, but it's also not my style to lose, so making concessions isn't a big deal.
G91+gull doesn't bother me on the quad. That particular quad is actually one of my normal bots (with minor mods), so I can say this from experience. The heat resistance on the ul is not all that bad (681), and if I remember right the normal cooling of the bot is like 15.8k-15.9k. This is all with no OB. That's way more than enough for me to handle the machine. Also, it bares mentioning that the strategy of this bot is fairly simple and LR-friendly: spam off or toss the cannon, and spam verts until the opponent tries to move in thne blaze em up with the handhelds from mid to close range. With the mini-k and hp, in general it simply isn't safe to come in and stay for long. The accuracy and pace at which those weapons can deal damage is a prime deterrent on the inside. I can see why most people would have a problem running gull+g91, though.
I thought you couldn't hangar with UA? The funny thing about the quad is that part of it's strategy is to be liberal with the firepower to limit enemy movement. UA would definitely be a better core choice though (it always is lol).
The tank is very straight-forward, and basically falls into one of the design archetypes of LR to a tee. I don't think it's a superior design to the quad, but I do think the quad and tank are cooler designs than the biped. I play type b so I'm not really into inside parts in LR. The gibbon is a nice idea but if I remember right I wasn't digging the arm movement and momentum shifts I was getting while using them. Oh, and the drain was bugging me too. It's worth revisiting though. I think it's a good suggestion.
Yeah I got lazy on the third one. That isn't to say that I think it "should be better" but I do feel that in general it's a lazy design and I took safe choices just about everywhere. You could go in all sorts of directions, probably, but to be honest there aren't too many directions that would be "better" in the LR metagame sense. You have to keep in mind that the biped's setup basically gives it a fighting chance against any possible design that can be made in LR, and this is before you even take into account piloting skills. Seeing as how I haven't played competitively since beginning of '07, I felt my skills won't be where they should and thus playing safe is what I should stick to. I will look into hazel though. I don't know if I tried it already, but it sounds like a fairly nice suggestion.
In fact, you can probably see that the unifying theme in all 3 bot choices was ease-of-use and safeness. The third one is easily the safest and most cookie-cutter, but I would say all 3 are generally safe bots. That's usually not my style, but it's also not my style to lose, so making concessions isn't a big deal.
