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06-15-2009, 03:33 PM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2009, 03:36 PM by Sforza.)

Remember Tim Sylvia? He was considered to be a top 5 heavyweight in MMA until he got beaten by Fedor in 36 seconds. Regardless, he was still considered to be a top 10 heavyweight until he got beat this weekend by Ray Mercer, a 48-year old former world champion boxer in 9 seconds, UNDER MMA RULES.

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I remember reading a quote somewhere that went along the lines of "fighters sometimes aren't the same person anymore after being beat that way by Fedor."

...Arlovski and Sylvia both got beat by Fedor in the past few months. They both lost in the first round in fights (after Fedor) they were supposed to win easily.

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