ASKARI

[Juno]

Okei,so someone around here wanted to see if there could actually be a useful design that uses ICURUS.So i took a whack at it and came up with this...

AC name:ASKARI
Type:MW Biped

head SR2 (5/0/5/0/0)
core ICURUS (0/0/10/0/0)
arms LEMUR2 (for fun of course) (0/10/0/0/0)
but if you wanna stick to the rules...
XS2 (0/10/0/0/0)
legs DINGO2 (0/10/0/0/0)
booster GULL (0/0/5/5)
generator FUDOH (0/10/0)
radiator R92 (0/6/4) (i know some are already saying "wtf?R92?"...i'll explain later)
inside none
extension ANOKU
back R none
back L none
arm R RL
arm L NIX

options
AMINO,ES,9SS,KISSYOH,SLA,79L+,CODON,86R+,MARISHI

Okei time to explain...This design is meant to make effective use(if not whore) of ICURUS.So the most controversial of this setup would have to be the internals.GULL + FUDOH is understandable but R92?Yeah.Honestly,i checked the tuning between ANANDA,R92, and RAGORA.Basically if ANANDA was tuned to all cooling, the resulting value is equal to that of the base cooling of R92, and RAGORA is crap(doi)...Where R92 beats ANANDA is it's forced cooling.Notice the way i tuned R92 (6 for en consumption, 4 for cooling).With this tuning,i put priority on the en consumption cuz that's where R92 really blows it.With this kind of design, with the GULL and all,cooling is really important.So notice that some of the tunes on the other parts are all cooling.When i Ob with this design and get shot at, heat shoots up rather quick.That's where the forced cooling comes in(i believe it has more than 18000), and heat quickly dies down.I tried whoring this design and it works fine, except for some very untimely heat problems...But it never gen busts.The OB of ICURUS is quite sweet really,i just hope i'm correct with this theory of mine.And i almost forgot, the refresh is fine too, considering that i do my gen refresh while boost hopping.

As for it's combat tactics...Quite simple really.Why would it have an OB if you won't OB right?At the start of the match, OB right away to the side of your opponent(even better if you can get behind) and use ANOKU, then fire away.This style has been implemented many times over and i just wanna pay tribute to the beautiful art of "backstabbing" mwahahaha...And honestly,i couldn't think of a better tactic to use with the design cuz it's quite fragile(but with LEMUR2 it's not hahaha) and i rely on OB to dodge most of the opponent's shots(yes cuz i'm behind them mwehehehe...) Jousting is automatically out of the question,and other tactics won't work...So there,begin criticizing my work!n_n

[Grim]

Pretty good. The internals are obviously picked to match the Icurus' high heat discharge rate. If only this was Nine Breaker, then Gull + Fudoh would work so great... ah well.

IMO though, Anoku is just a novelty extension, fit for novelty ACs. Or at least on bladers. This isn't either, but it has the potential to become a staple, if refined a little bit further. Like go S3 on the legs FTW. With that extra leg weight capacity, you have a little bit more room for something useful, like a 69M + RM combo. And of course switching out the Icurus for something better, haha. :tongue:

Anybody else know what good points the Icurus does have, and under what combinations it can thrive in? I'm kinda' trying to use all the parts in LR before AC4 comes rolling around (yup, start saving people, P25000+ for a next-gen system is a bit too much, but it'll be worth it IMO).

This gives me an idea: DCs that require the use of crap parts. Yum.
Whoever puts up the most efficient designs wins. And we can have the worst design award too, for those who want to discover how low they can go (of course, they'll probably just put on the Kujaku, LOL).

[VeilSide]

<!--QuoteBegin-Grimoire+Sep 4 2006, 08:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Grimoire @ Sep 4 2006, 08:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anybody else know what good points the Icurus does have, and under what combinations it can thrive in? [/quote:5e1b583e28]
it's not a very good core at all. its OB is rather weak considering the OB's high usage drain and OB heat. but worst of all, if i recall correctly, it has one of the lowest heat resistance ratings of any core in the game. that makes it especially dangerous when OB starts to spool.

i'm thinking that equipping other parts with high cooling ratings, a generator with low calorific value, and a radiator with high cooling and/or high forced cooling. even if you manage to get a good combo of parts, i don't think the payoff will be worth the effort. from what i observe at tournaments, the UL, UL2, and EOS cores seem to be the only ones worth using if you plan to abuse OBing. HELIOS is a great OB core by itself, but without hangers or CAMS, you might as well use the EOS.

[Juno]

Sheesh...Like i said,i designed this to make use of ICURUS, and i'm not asking for other better OB cores.Of course there are a lot of other better cores,i use them.The point of this design is to make use of ICURUS.Anyway...

Like go S3 on the legs FTW

S3 is fun, but i'm trying to keep en consumption to a low...The MW leg(jouster's legs,forgot the serial) could also be used but i'm not too fond of it cuz it kinda looks bulky lol...

With regard to the OB thingy and the weapon setup,it's true it's not eve a blader nor does it have a very abusive combo for backstabbing but still,fun.=p

Hey,i like the idea of worst design award(with the exception of actual crap parts hahaha e.g. KUJAKU)...Or most original for that matter.This could actually give way for sumthin new.n_n

[VeilSide]

<!--QuoteBegin-Juno+Sep 5 2006, 10:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Juno @ Sep 5 2006, 10:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sheesh...Like i said,i designed this to make use of ICURUS, and i'm not asking for other better OB cores.Of course there are a lot of other better cores,i use them.The point of this design is to make use of ICURUS.Anyway... [/quote:69805fee92]
sorry about that, man. didn't mean to rag on the ICURUS core like that. i tried your design, but most of my suggestions would include swapping cores. however, i do have a couple of suggestions:

1) try the original DINGO over the DINGO2. yeah, i know the spreadsheets all say that the DINGO2 is better and that they (to me) look sexier. but the original DINGO does something that the DINGO2 doesnt and makes me love it so much more. with the DINGO2, if you uderweight your AC enough - either by original design or by droppig weapons - it will land hard and stun your AC if you try jumping. this sucks especially in the case that you genbust and are trying to recover energy. now, i know you're running big daddy FUDOH, but it's still something to keep in mind.

2) have you tried the GRIFFON as your left arm weapon? i have no idea what your piloting style is, but if you feel like you can afford the drain, it's may be worth checking out. goes great with the RL rifle and VOLUTE fcs since they're both special lock. but you don't have hangers so you'll have to watch tha timing.

[Serene]

Oh boy... This one looks fun to use... I don't OB though... But I like the Icarus, I find it cool and.

Now... What is with Dingo2 anyway? How come I feel like it's the most used midweight leg?

[Juno]

Yey!Finally you understand!n_n

As for other OB cores(e.g. UL2,/UL,HELIOS) i stick to GULL + LOTUS + ANANDA, but with UL2,GULL + LOTUS + LINDEN or HAZEL is enough.

Anyways,i underweighted it on purpose...Cuz i read Grimoire's post that mentioned that while i was thinking of a design for ICURUS so...Hahaha...

Now... What is with Dingo2 anyway? How come I feel like it's the most used midweight leg?

As for DINGO2,yes it is so overused that i'm one of them wahahaha!!Nah..It just looks sexy and all,it works great as a basis for a solid design,it's stats only need a look at to realize why it's nice to use.This is only a trial frame to make use of ICURUS so think of the overall frame as a "demo" mwehehe...About DINGO,i don't dig it.Think of it as favoritism,but i only use DINGO2,COUGAR,COUGAR2,S3,and the one Jouster uses(i still don't know the serial,i haven't been playing lately) for the MW,and i'm more of LW.But like i said,this is only my "demo" of how i try to use ICURUS,so it's still up to you guys how you'll run this thing.=p

with the DINGO2, if you uderweight your AC enough - either by original design or by droppig weapons - it will land hard and stun your AC if you try jumping. this sucks especially in the case that you genbust and are trying to recover energy.

Okei...First of all,i don't get hard landings cuz i know when and how to land my AC from a hard fall.It's just a matter of boosting just before a fall to absorb the shock from the hard landing.Second,this design,or at least the way i use it,does not gen bust.I mentioned it somewhere in my original post i believe?I just don't,even with all the OB whoring(if you can call it whoring).

have you tried the GRIFFON as your left arm weapon? i have no idea what your piloting style is, but if you feel like you can afford the drain, it's may be worth checking out. goes great with the RL rifle and VOLUTE fcs since they're both special lock. but you don't have hangers so you'll have to watch tha timing.

No,i can't afford the drain.This design is meant to have a high en surplus so it could help ease out the refresh of the FUDOH.Although i may have failed miserably with the design to max out the en surplus cuz there are obviously other better part combinations to do this,i made the design in a way that i can use it effectively,and that means a no-no to EN weapons,cuz all my energy goes to OB,and the excess en consumption can't be afforded.This AC is meant to stay close to the opponent by using OB to make full use of the NIX.I'm a close in fighter at most times,and DFAC sometimes.,so i hope that explains the combo.

[Serene]

I'm with you on Cougar 2... As a matter of fact, I have a Sting-Icarus-88FG-Cougar2- version of your AC... Made it 2 weeks ago...

[aleczander]

OK so if running Icurus, how about a LINDEN + LOTUS + V2 (or a cooler booster)?
Since Icurus has very low heat resistance but runs hot anyway, maybe its a natural candidate for a "back door cooling" deisgn??

[Terminator98]

Hmmm. so you use ICURUS and try to make it look good. Just like me some times ago on ACO, except that I used ICURUS on a tank. XD

Anyways, AC looks good, save for the fact that the left arm NIX WILL suck agaisnt people that know how to dodge.

One things, FUDOH + ANANDA goes fine, as long as you've got good cooling. See:

Head: STING
Core: ICURUS
Arms: XS
Legs: S3

Generator: FUDOH (I'd go LOTUS THOUGH...)
Rad: GULL
FCS: F73H
Booster: GULL

Extensions: RM

Back L: 69M

Arm R: RL
Arm L: 69H handgun - OR - HP handgun

This frame is an experiment I've been playing around with since some time. Try it, it might make your AC feel better. (It's got a lot more AP BTW...)